Talk:Mien Paij

Norfuk / local words f' legen

Wataweih!

I see daa wiav used "Sahara" f'a artikal name. Should wibi using words lik "Sah-arra" an "Norfuk Ailen" insteado' "Saraha" an "Norfolk Island"? (PS. Sorry about my very rusty Norfuk. I am out of practice) ( ) 08:35, 25 October 2005 (UTC).

Pig Latin

Not intending to offend anyone, but when I first read something here I thought this was a silly joke by Jimbo Wales creating a Pig Latin Wikipedia. The title 'pih' and the language... :) Then I found out this is an actual language. You made my day. --89.138.28.135 09:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

What is this language?

Is this pitcairnese english, the creole language spoken around the Pitcairn islands? There are, like, 50 speakers of this language and i'm quite sure they speak standard english too. This is as useful as the Klingon Wikipedia. Italian Vandal 21:44, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Pitkern is a valid language

Actually, the Klingon Wikipedia is not useful because there are no native speakers of Klingon, and it exists solely in the minds of people who follow the works of Gene Roddenberry. Pitcairn Island, on the other hand, has a fascinating history behind it, including the development of a language borne out of the need for an isolated community of English and Tahitian who needed to communicate with each other, and who lost contact with their own language over the next 100 years. Now, as technology has brought Pitcairn and Norfolk society back in contact with the rest of the world, examples of their language should be kept alive. --Brian Waterman 17:55 1 January 2008 (PST)

Moreover, I am sure the Pitcairnese are educated enough not to insert street language such as "like" into a written article, and to know that, in English, the first person singular pronoun is written with a capital letter.

Oh, and one more thing

There are actually a few thousand speakers, since the language is spoken both on Pitcairn and Norfolk Islands, and Norfolk Island has a much larger population than Pitcairn. Brian Waterman 06:09, 30 Jaenyuweri 2008 (UTC)

This is not a real language.

This is just a dialect of English. People who speak with this dialect spell the words out in standard English. This encyclopedia is rediculous. It's like having a Southern United States wiki for people who speak with a Southern U.S. accent.

How would you propose we spell "Adda now we hauf 127 dem artikal en daffy." in standard English? "At the now we have 127 them article in daffy"? That makes no sense in English. Sorry.

Not a real language? That is nonsense. This language is perhaps more analogous to en:Gullah, in that there are clear traces of English, but it's pretty difficult for a non-speaker to actually construct anything. Have you heard someone speak in Norfuk? It's incomprehensible to a non-speaker like me, even though I can understand to a degree what the articles here are saying.

If this is not a real language, neither are Gullah, Scots, or Kriol. Lankiveil 10:13, 29 Juun 2008 (UTC).

Also, I'm sure that actual Norfolk Islanders are able to correctly spell the word "ridiculous", either in English or Norfuk! Lankiveil 10:14, 29 Juun 2008 (UTC)

I don't know what Gullah or Norfuk are, but Scots is not a real language, either. They are pretty much just English with some different vocabulary and heavy accents, but they write in normal English. Also, are you sure that Pitcairnians spell "main page" as "mien paij," or was the spelling used in this wiki just invented to try to emulate how they pronounce English words?

Then you could just as well say that Danish, Norwegian and Swedish are not separate languages, as they are mostly able to understand each other (with the partly exception of Danish, which has a different pronunciation). All written languages are based on some dialect or another, and it is nonsense to assume that one dialect should be better just because it has won out as the basis as a written language.It simply won out as the speakers of the group became more dominant or poweful than other groups. --Oddeivind 20:11, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Yiddish, Norwegian and Afrikaans (three more "made up languages" using the logic that Scots is "made up" All languages are invented. scots is no less real than English just because they developped symbiotically!) 92.235.178.44 20:34, 25 Ieprel 2009 (UTC)

Good luck with your Wikipedia guys! look forward to reading more articles in your fascinating language! Hope you just ignore the opining of the linguistically ignorant. 92.235.178.44 20:38, 25 Ieprel 2009 (UTC)

a tal' f' t' pitkern Wikkapedya

I'm trying to get the logo written in Pitkern, I don't know alot of Pitkern, but right on the front page it says "Wikkapedya, t' frii ensiiklopedya" so I was able to make it. See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20249#c0, and http://pih.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wiki.png for the image itself. Aparently it needs to be in Hoefler text so if anyone could do that, that would be great. --Mikewazhere 20:01, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

the logo's been changed! congrats pitkern wikkapedya, you know have your own logo. enjoy! --Mikewazhere 19:47, 9 Ieprel 2010 (UTC)

Norfolk Creole

Is the spelling used in this Wiki how Norfolk Islanders actually spell Norfolk Creole words, or are they just realizations of the way someone interprets their accent in the Latin Alphabet? Norfolk Islanders write in English, don't they?

Jonas Rand 216.241.55.204 05:21, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

I know I'm 3 years late to this question, but:

T' orthografii dewelaped bei Aelis Baffett an Dr. Dohnal Liekok es aksepted bei t' Norfuk Ailen gawanment an ets aplekaeshan es enkriisin.

In standard English: "The orthography developed by Alice Buffett and Dr. Donald Laycock is accepted by the Norfolk Island government and its application is increasing." Alice Buffett and Dr. Laycock are Australian linguists.

Hope that clears things up for you. FokkerTISM (talk) 08:28, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Small request

Hello! I am a Polish wikipedian and I would like to ask you for your help - writing a new article about former Polish President who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1983 – Lech Wałęsa. I have looked for his biography in your Wikipedia but without success. Polish Wikipedians will be grateful for your help. Thank you so much in advance! PS you can find the English version of the article here. Best wishes from Poland, Patrol110 11:36, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Y Done. --AmaryllisGardener (talk) 01:27, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Wataweih/Grüess enk Got!

It's always a great experience to have used a language the first time ;-). I just wish you the very best for your Wikipedia. Hellsepp 19:08, 12 Mieh 2010 (UTC)

Gude! / Wataweih

Hi. I'm BarkingFish, a Wikipedia editor at home on en.wikipedia, and an administrator to the Tok Pisin Wikipedia at tpi.wikipedia.org - I am very pleased to see languages like Norfolk supported and maintained within Wikipedia, since the language of the Wiki I admin has very few native speakers - most either speak French, English or Hiri Motu as a first language.

To those people who come here and say "This isn't a real language" - take a hike!!!. You need to have a look at the one I run if you think Norfolk isn't real... Tok Pisin can be read, like Norfolk, as English pretty much. I'd love to help here, but obviously I need to learn some of the language first. Best wishes on the project, hope you can keep going :) BarkingFish 20:30, 12 Juun 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia in Tatar

Dear friends, may I ask you to add a hyperlink to our Tatar Wikipedia (http://tt.wikipedia.org) to yourr Front page. Tatars - are turkic nation living in Tatarstan Republic, second biggest nation in Russian Federation. hope to hear from you soon. sincerely yours, Muhtac 21:59, 20 Maach 2011 (UTC)

CLOSURE PROPOSAL

This project is being considered for closure. m:Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Norfuk/Pitkern Wikipedia. --Philip J (talk) 15:14, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Wataweih!

Hello this is IllogicMink and I want to help out. I understand the legitimacy of this wiki, being a valid pidgin, and want to help. OK? IllogicMink (talk) 00:13, 8 Juun 2015 (UTC)

Hi! It's always good to help. I have little to no knowledge of the language, but I help around here. Jay Jay Marcus Keize13 (talk)

Page Protection

The main page needs to be protected, above all other pages, as vandalism occurs on it, than on any other pages. This protection should only allow autoconfirmed users to edit. Regards, ✨Jay Jay Marcus Keize13✨ (talk) 11:04, 19 Mieh 2018 (UTC)

Admins

Hi! I'm from Milan, Italy but my Grandma is from Pitkern Island and she could speak the Pitkern Language. I've seen that you (or we, cause I'm logging in) haven't got an admin. I think we could have an election in which we could choose the admin. If this purpose will be accepted, I apply myself to the charge of Admin. Best Wishes (Hope this purpose will be accepted=), SarduLogoduresu

Hi, Activity, and Admins.

Hi there. I am a speaker of Pitkern, Norfuk, English, and Italian. My Norfuk, and Pitkern could be improved, but I have basic knowledge of the languages. I have been working on this Wikipedia for only two days and already did about 6-7 articles as well as fixing some other articles. I would like to see everyone being active in this community like me. Also, I agree with the guy above me about some kind of election for admins.

- I've been mostly been concentrating on Niue and all things Niuean for now. Check it out.

ALSO, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE SPELLING OF PITKERN/NORFUK IS THE SAME ON ALL PAGES. FOR EXAMPLE, on the page for Endya, other is translated to "uada". However, on the page for Laenghwij, other is translated to "otha". 3 other uses of the word "other" is spelled as "otha", so this spelling should be universal.

-- Some days, later.... The activity is still terrible. I've done another bunch of articles that are not just stubs (Dem Cook Ailen Maori, Fijian, Nauruuan). I think I would be a good admin, and therefore, am applying to be the admin.

Future of this wiki

(Apologies for the English): Hello! After the Scots Wikipedia incident (see meta:Requests for comment/Large scale language inaccuracies on the Scots Wikipedia, this wiki also came up as possibly affected by similar issues. The question is: are there any fluent speakers of Noruk / Pitkern active who can prevent an occurrence of something like the Scots Wikipedia, where there was large-scale language inaccuracies from non-fluent speakers? Is there any prospect of attracting any in the future? And if not, does making an entire encyclopedia in Pitkern make sense? Perhaps a Wikibook on the language would be more appropriate and more feasible. See meta:Requests_for_comment/Large_scale_language_inaccuracies_on_the_Scots_Wikipedia/other_wikis#Norfuk_/_Norfolk_/_Pitkern for more. SnowFire (talk) 23:35, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Problems

When I try to link the Wallis an Futuna to the other ones, it does not work even though I am an autoconfirmed user. Why is this happening? Alefar (talk) 18:42, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

You must have some problems with Wikidata if I understand it correctly. However, I've successfully linked the page. Coconutic (talk) 13:33, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Closure proposal

Hello (apologies for English),

Per above comment in 2020, I've filed a request to close Norfuk / Pitkern Wikipedia. Please see meta:Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Pitkern & Norfuk Wikipedia 3 if you're interested in adding any thoughts or opinions. SnowFire (talk) 01:11, 8 Maach 2024 (UTC)